For those who missed the comment on my last post, I decided that E1.5 was a far inferior schedule to SPAMAYL (at least in my case) and switched back. By this time, however long it had been, I have re-adjusted to SPAMAYL.
However, that isn’t really the point of this update. What is the point? well today I had a pretty awesome Q&A session with a new member by the name of “sincerelycrazy” about some concerns he had regarding SPAMAYL and I decided to paraphrase and archive it for posterity. So! With no further adieu:
I’m not claiming to be an expert or anything, just trying to provide my perspective from the experiences I’ve had and the research I’ve done.
Pure Doxyk, while under Uberman, said it was terrible when she missed a nap, and that it’d take a full day to recover. Even monophasic sleeping is said to be most effective when people have a very strict schedule regarding their sleeping patterns by going to sleep and waking up at the exact same time everyday.
Yes, this is 100% true, it IS terrible when you miss a nap. However, I believe you have missed some critical information on SPAMAYL, we are not missing naps, we are adding naps. If you look into the research that the people did on monophasic sleepers you will find that research shows that they recommend only to fall asleep when you are tired, and the only designated time (that shouldn’t be tampered with) is wake up time. Using SPAMAYL we are incorporating these devices while using some clever work-arounds. We ARE in-fact sleeping when we are tired, that is essentially the core idea of SPAMAYL. And as for the waking time, that is a strict set time because it allows the body to decide how much time it needs to sleep (and therefore make the person tired when they are that far away from there wake up time). Using SPAMAYL we set the sleeping time to exactly 20 minutes in this way the body decides (instead of how long the sleep should be) when it needs 20 minutes of sleep. In theory, these are both the bodies way of self-regulating sleeping time. Not having a schedule is what is shunned because then the body will NEVER know how long it will sleep for.
I guess I’m interested to see how Rasmus/Steel Sovereignty are progressing. Honestly, how rested and clearheaded do you guys feel during your waking hours? They say that after being adjusted to Uberman for several months, you feel a sort of “euphoria.” Do you guys ever feel that?
I feel that I have adjusted once again. I’m running perfectly fine on around 10 naps per day, and eventually this number will go down (keep in mind this is 3 hours and 20 mins, whereas on monophasic I usually get 10 hours). During the day I feel great, perfectly functional! I work a job that has unpredictable hours and this has never been a problem with SPAMAYL. During the night/early morning I do still feel a little groggy, but it’s nothing unbearable and should go away after the full month of adjusting.
As far as euphoria goes, I would have to say that I have sort of experienced it, although I would call it more of a high than anything. Generally after around 10-20mins of waking from a really good nap my head kinda feels like it is clearer and a little like I’m high from weed. I also tend to find that I make the best decisions around this time, and I make them easier as well.
Do either of you try purposely to schedule it that way?
No sir! I let the naps land where they want to (whenever I can at least). In fact, I have found that I’m different to Rasmus in this regard. I really like to party and stay out late with friends and have frequently made myself stay up for 9 hours at a time at night (typically 7 – 4 or something) and my SPAMAYL schedule has actually started adapting around this naturally. I tend to take most of my naps Early in the morning (5AM – 11AM) and slightly more then average in the afternoon (5PM-7PM).
(also again, you will need more than 6 naps on this schedule, a small price to pay for the flexibility.)
Steve Pavlina adapted to Uberman, and then after his adaptation period, he was able to become more flexible with his sleep times, catching naps before and after events and whatnot. However, adapting in an irregular manner seems slightly implausible.
How so? wouldn’t it seem more natural to let the body decide when IT wants to sleep rather than forcing it into a potentially un-fulfilling schedule? And as far as flexibility goes, that is what SPAMAYL is all about. If you’re worried that you will be tired during an event, then you actually do the exact same thing and take a preemptive nap (or 2) before said event.
In regards to his post about possibly trying uberman first and then switching to SPAMAYL to try it out:
I think you would be going about that the hard way. Adapting to SPAMAYL first is FAR easier (at least in my opinion). If you really wanted to you could take 1 nap every hour for the 24 hours and you’d get your average 8 hours of sleep, doing so however would give you FAR more sleep then you’d ever need. After that you can gradually widdle the time down and have very little sleep dep to show for it. whereas on Uberman you are instantly cutting yourself down to 2 hours and your body will hate you for it for a very long time. ( I know from Dymaxion)
I guess my doubts about SPAMAYL stem from not forcing your brain to rewire, but instead giving into what your body wants.
First let me say that SPAMAYL, like all other forms of polyphasic sleeping DOES involve sleep depriviation and is by no means EASY to adapt to. No matter how you look at it, in the end you are inevitably reducing the amount of sleep you get to drastic lows. And, while I can’t fully explain why this helps so much, the difference between SPAMAYL and Uberman is the frequency at which the body gets “practice” with these 20 minute naps. I believe Luke was experiencing the same revelation in his last post when he said, “It has been mentioned that the body needs practice before it can learn to nap well. On Uberman, we only give ourselves 6 practice runs a day. On dymaxion, only 4. With SPAMAYL, we give ourselves 10-15+ practice runs a day (and without having the nap-or-die pressure that comes with other schedules).”
If you don’t mind me asking, SteelSovereignty, how exactly do you know that you’ve adapted? I’m not doubting you at all, I was just curious as to what criteria you gave yourself to determine that your adaptation period has ended.
I’m not so sure that I have adapted yet actually. There is a slight difference in the phrases “adapting” and “adjusting”. I read the difference somewhere else on this board; allow me to paraphrase: Adjusting comes first, it happens when your body finally gets used to the naps and starts utilizing them to there potential. Indicators of adjustment are remembering dreams upon waking, and generally feeling pretty great after naps. Adapting usually comes a month later (ish) and occurs when you become so used to polyphasing that you feel more comfortable doing it than doing monophasic. General indicators of adaptation is the lack of need for an alarm (except maybe in “just in case” situations). In conclusion, I believe I have adjusted as I find I have satisfied the criteria (dreams and feeling good). I apologize if I have mixed up the words in any of my previous posts, they are tricky little buggers.
(Lack of adaptation is what is stopping me from getting, say, 8 naps per day)
As a side note, I am also using polyphasic sleeping for University. I feel that all that extra time will be like turning on cheat mode for studying.
I hope I’ve covered all of your concerns in this ridiculously long post, and I thank you for getting me to use my brain muscle more than I usually would. Thank you for your kind words as well
P.S.: Don’t be afraid to ask about anything, I can be pretty confusing at times. I love answering these questions.